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The Perception Of Proportion
“How big is it? How long does it last? These are the most basic questions a scientist can ask about a thing. They are so basic to the way people conceptualize the world that it is not easy to see that they imply a certain bias. They suggest that size and duration, qualities that depend on scale, are qualities with meaning, qualities that can help describe an object or classify it. … Scale is important.”
~ James Gleick, Chaos: Making a New Science
I had spent years trying to click people free photos or cropping them out completely, until I realised the importance of scale. Of the need for a point of reference to aid perception. Especially in the case of monumental architecture or spectacular landscapes.
I do still forget sometimes. Here are a few instances where I didn’t (or just got plain lucky.):
A devout Buddhist nun meditating beside the Dhamek Stupa, Sarnath.
The two red clad figures at the base of the Tianlong (Sky Dragon) Bridge help percieve its dramatic proportions.
These tiny Masai figures on the floor of the Ngorongoro crater demonstrate the vastness of that space.
A young girl dwarfed by the humongous columns of the hipostyle hall of Karnak Temple.
The stepped Pyramid of Djoser – believed to be the earliest large-scale cut stone construction.
First sight of the Treasury at Petra. This is the accidental/lucky one: I waited a long time for that people free shot and finally ran out of patience!
Happy travels….no matter where life takes you.
PS: The thumbnail features Oscar Niemeyer’s Museu de Arte Contemporânea de Niterói (MAC) Brazil.
Oh you have been to marvellous places! And what photos! & I too try to keep my photos people-free – doesn’t always work 🙂
Ah yes, that requires a lot of patience 🙂 Thanks Keira.
you’re welcome 🙂
Fantastic examples Madhu! Wonderful shots! 🙂
Thank you Norma 🙂
Fabulous images, Madhu! They certainly demonstrate scale, proportion….. Like you, I usually take people-less images unless I am illustrating people interacting with their surroundings, for example in street photography!
I guess these benefit from the people in them. although I didn’t think so then.
Absolutely…but I know what you mean!
Interesting sight and words that I enjoy! 🙂
Glad you do Heather. Thank you for stopping by to let me know 🙂
Tiny Masai – sounds very ironic, considering Masai are generally very tall. I tried to take pictures of two Masai men (in Delhi), and I couldn’t fit them into one frame!
Ha, I obviously wasn’t thinking clearly!! 😀 Then again, this IS a post on scale……
😀 exactly!
Your election results would qualify as en example for scale as well……what a rout!!! 🙂
Yup! Exceeded everyone’s expectations.
Man, you DO get around don’t you Madhu?! Love that you admitted to running out of patience on the last shot LOL ! All great shots of amazing places, well done!
Thanks Tina. I am proud of my people free shots from some impossibly crowded places but Petra proved the exception 🙂
These are all great shots and its hard to choose between them but Tianlong and the Masai are both amazing!
The bridge is my favourite too Gilly, especially because it was shot with an od P&S camera.
Oh, I adore these! I am especially fond of the first two. The second one, in particular, I think, if I had to choose. But, of course, I don’t HAVE to choose! I am lucky enough to get to enjoy them all.
And speaking of being lucky, I just saw your recent comments on my blog and felt so lucky again for having you there. Thank you for THIS, Madhu, and for THAT. 🙂
Thank you. And You are most welcome Riba. I enjoy reading your posts 🙂
I’m glad. I love reading yours, too, and getting to see your photos. Now I’m going away again, so no need to reply. Hee hee hee.
Yes, these are reflection of the power of proportion…brilliantly captured, the location with it’s monumental architecture or spectacular landscapes are amazing…photography does depend on the location and the landscapes.
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Thank you Nihar.
Your photography is always wonderful Madhu, and you’re right, people or distinct objects do help the imagination see the subject in the right proportions. In your examples, all majestic!
Thank you Elisa. You can’t beat Egypt for architecture of mammoth proportions. The fact that they were built several thousand years ago is mind boggling.
Great images for the challenge, Madhu. Shots such as these really do cut us humans down to size, although apart from the Ngorongoro Crater, these huge edifices have all been built by lots of tiny human ‘ants’. One of the commenters on my ‘Scale’ post, asked the question, ” I wonder why man builds things that make him feel so insignificant?” Good question indeed. 🙂
To make the person building it look/feel like GOD perhaps? I am selfishly glad those egotists walked the earth 🙂 Thanks Sylvia.
Me too. 🙂
Very nice set to show the proportions !! j ‘appreciate the photo with the Masai
man finally small in the presence nature
Yes, that was an unexpected bonus as we were dpearting Ngorongoro. Thank you Pat.
When we went to Maymont the other day, I tired quickly waiting for ‘people free’ shots. Given it was a Sunday and a gorgeous day in the middle of winter, there were too many other people around. Finally, I included them to represent ‘A beautiful day in the park’. Sometimes you gotta roll with it, and I’m glad you did, as your photo is breathtaking, and honestly the people add to the overall photo, since they portray a comparative ‘scale’ to the big picture.
Yes, I have figured that out by now. Glad you enjoyed these Marcy. Thank you for stopping by.
I didn’t know Petra was going to be that massive when I visited. That totally blew me away. Also, the columns in Karnak are so big even the people in the photo don’t do it justice.
It is a good lesson to travel photographers to include a person for scale sometimes, especially if it is a local with some type of traditional clothes on. (If you can get that lucky!)
Yes, we were unprepared for the scale of Petra as well. And the columns in Karnak were the hardest to capture without a wide angle lens because of the lack of room to manoeuvre. I did have an Egyptian man in a starling white turban wander into my frame in Edfu, but it hasn’t happened since. Fingers crossed that I’ll get luckier along the way 🙂
I think the tourist board in places like Egypt need to pay photogenic people to wander around places like Karnak so we can get cool photos of them with the scale of the columns. Let’s work on that.
I know what you mean about cropping the human element, but I’m glad these survived!!! 😉 Excellent shots and perfect for the challenge! 🙂
Thank you Marina 🙂
Outstanding scale … and the second image is breath-taking!
Isn’t it? I remember thinking how both natural and man made landscapes in China vie with each other for magnificence 🙂
In the early years of my travel I also tried so hard to take people-free photos. But later on I learned that having people in a photo isn’t always bad, sometimes it does give you a sense of how big, vast, deep, or high a place is, as you mentioned here. Because sometimes photos don’t do justice of an amazing place.
I guess we all have Bama 🙂 Loved your photos of the dancers of Uluwatu!
Thank you, Madhu! I learned from my first visit. 🙂
I’ve always been fascinated with Petra. What a huge undertaking it was and their water supply system was a monumental task in itself too. Interesting how pyramids are to be found widely scattered around the world in spite of huge ocean distances between. It would be interesting to watch a time lapse video of the movement of peoples around the world and how common cultural knowledge went with them over time.
I am endlessly fascinated by the cultural exchanges and resulting similarities between ancient civilizations too. Makes me want to climb into a time machine 🙂
Madhu … Your photo of the Treasury at Petra is excellent for several reasons: the people do provide perspective on scale. But to peek thru the stones to the columns beyond is just a wonderful view. Thank you for sharing and reminding me to include the people. 😉
Judy, nothing prepares you for that first breathtaking sight of the treasury! It does not match any monument in Egypt in antiquity, but the setting is pure magic.
The snaps are marvelous. Just loved them all. Too good. I guess u have so much patience to get it all just the perfect. M a very common follower of your blogs and appreciate ur hard work. Thank u for the share. Keep posting with lots more.
Thank you very much for the lovely comment Shreya. I hope to see you around 🙂
Wow, how did you captured these…I mean, how did you zoomed out to capture those large, scary and monstrous structures!
Hardly scary! 🙂 Apart from Sarnath and Ngorongoro, all were shot with a little P&S that didn’t require much skill! Literally point & shoot 🙂
Wow!
Gorgeous shots, Madhu! I couldn’t possibly pick a favorite. I appreciated the story of how you have come to appreciate people in your photos as a way of showing scale.
Thank you Naomi.
These are really great shots ~ and I am much like your past thinking as well, as I go out of my way not to include people in my photos…yet with this post, you give a series of great reasons why it is important to include people. The importance of scale is what makes these shots so wonderful and beautiful. Cheers!
Appreciate your thoughtful comment Randall.
Each of these alone are spectacular, the bridge though this one is simply breathless. I could stare at it for hours.
Me too Valentine. China boasts many magnificent sights like this.
Wonderful shots of various perceptions, Madhu! Truly fascinating!
Thank you Lauren. Hope you are enjoying your break 🙂
Amazing Madhu, as always, nothing greater to expect!
Aww, that is a lovely thing to say Cornelia. Thank you 🙂
Madu, I am planning a trip to India with a Persian friend in January. Can’t believe it yet. I might have to turn to you for some advices.
That’s great Cornelia! Happy to help in any way. Drop me a line via my contact page.
Wow Madhu you have visited some of the most impressive places, quite overwhelming in the scale of things. Just to think of the designing and building of those immense edifices so long ago with out the aid of our modern technology. Then to see the images you have caught with tiny insignificant people next to them I say again WOW…
Thank you very much Pauline. Like I said before, I didn’t have to do much except to point and shoot 🙂
Great, all of them! 😀 claudine
Thank you very much Claudine 🙂
Great photos and perfect of the challenge. What better way to give a sense of scale than by including a person. I really like the Massai crossing the Ngorongoro Crater.
Thank you Ron. Appreciate your compliment.
Look how the reds pop out in your pictures. It should be a mandatory color. 😊what a wonderful collection of extraordinary places. I’m leaning more and more to including people in pictures if it shows scale or portrays culture. It is a form of storytelling. Having said that, I prefer many architectural photos to be just that. No people.
True Lynne, I prefer architectural shots to be people free as well. I hadn’t particularly noticed, until you pointed it out, that every single one of the above shots had a pop of red!! 🙂
How beautiful! Thank you Jake! 🙂
Very belated thanks Jake! 🙂
Superb shots Madhu! Such awe-inspiring structures! Having human elements in the frame does put their massive size into perspective.
Thanks Uday. You probably knew it all along 🙂
Awesome
Thank you Sita. Appreciate your visit and comment 🙂
Thank you for this tip/reminder. I constantly take pictures that don’t include people in them and see how important it is to include them. If I can make that one simple change that results in more fantastic pictures like the ones you take, then I’ll consider that a major triumph in my artistic endeavors. I love the shots you included here.
I think we all do.These are mostly accidental 🙂
I’m curious. Why did you aim for people-free photos? I do too – partly out of respect for their privacy, and partly maybe so I can feel I alone have been in this place. That’s a crazy reason! This post is a good argument for their inclusion – and no privacy problems. At the back of my mind is the kerfuffulle over ownership of The Kiss photo I think
Meg, I used to be very self conscious about clicking people. I am far more relaxed now, but do struggle with the ethics of it. I back off immediately, if I sense the slightest hint of displeasure.
This post really hit home for me, because I too do people-free photos. These particular examples work so perfectly to show the importance of scale. Without the tiny human end of the scale, they would still be interesting, but there is a “gasp” dimension to my response that would be lacking. Incidentally, how often in your photos are the humans dressed in red — that “spot of red” that so often adds to much to a painting of a photo!
Strange how every one of them is dressed in red isn’t it? Pure co-incidence! 🙂
I loved the photos. And you have been to Petra. i would love to go there!!
Judy
Thank you Judy. Petra is a magical place. I would love to go back 🙂
How true, Madhu. One instantly gets a sense of exactly how enormous some of the natural formations, or those man-made, really are, through your lovely photographs… I enjoy your pictorial travelblog….!
Thanks Harini . Rather behind on my responses as you can see 🙂
I wait patiently too, Madhu. It doesn’t always pay off. Love the Sky Dragon bridge shot 🙂
We are probably not patient enough Jo! 🙂
All great shots Madhu and so beautifully balanced with your well timed acceptance of the person who is not going to get out of the frame in any hurry. Wow on the Masai shot, brilliant!
Patti, the problem in Petra was that there was always a person waiting to take the place of the one that moved away. A never ending stream of people who stopped at that exact spot to gasp in awe! 😀
True. I always tend to not photograph places with people. But they are very important when you are trying to show scale.
Glad we agree Rommel 🙂 Always a pleasure to see you here 🙂
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I wanted to see a Buddha with a pigeon, but these make me happy too. I think it is great that most of these human figures wear bright red clothes. Perfect examples, Madhu!
Sorry to disappoint dearie 🙂
sometimes we have to hurry to grab a view of some historical landmarks of old cultures – before ISIS have destroyed them…
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